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Post by Eyesore on Dec 8, 2005 16:23:17 GMT -5
I don't think that's what she meant... in fact I don't think I really know what she meant O.O
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Post by JackInJill on Dec 13, 2005 11:20:20 GMT -5
She doesn't know either... mostly it was cool that Vizor sounded so very nerdy
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Post by Ethan Hawkeye on Dec 13, 2005 13:01:58 GMT -5
Now I'm just writing this after reading Vizor's last post and I poseted this earlier but clicked on another button and it changed pages and back just erased my comments. So he's right THC is the major factor with drugs like weed and hash because they determine the high you'll get and it's intensity the more THC then the more brain cells effected. weed has between 5-8% THC which doesn't seem like much but it is enough at first. As you become used to it though you need to smoke more to hit our high because there's such a limited amount this is why people move on to harder drugs because their high isn't there anymore and they begin ot grow an immunity to it, so they'l mix weed with hash which is 25% THC and get their high ten times quicker than before btu also have worse after effects but people dont care because the high's what matters. Then hash mixed wont do so you'll buy a shit load and try to make a hash joint which doesn't work and find out the stupid way then you move onto harder drugs and pills trying to get your high improoved because it's not there anymore. The the immunity to THC dies down and the person can smoke weed again but they're addicted to other drugs now, etc. Anyways I hope you see my point about how THC is a major factor with marijuana.
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Post by Vizor on Dec 13, 2005 22:13:12 GMT -5
So you're with the non-legalization of MJ?
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Post by Vizor on Dec 13, 2005 22:20:01 GMT -5
Oh right, was re-reading a bit and relized we all forgot a side effect...it lowers your imune system. As long as you keep smoke...so it's not permanent. So if you have AIDS or something and you want to make sure you die the next day...umm smoke this.
I also dug further into the LONG TERM effects of MJ. I found that Eyesore was correct it does seem to in simple terms...lower the overall IQ of a person. Though I actually have a theory on this...the reason they're dumber is because when they're spoce to be learning something they're to busy high and doing something like...counting tiles on the floor. Though I guess you could argue the same wih someone who drank a lot too...I'm sure you couldn't learn well while you where drunk or something.
Just thought I'd strighten those things out, since they didn't seem so clear.
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Post by bondextreme on Jan 2, 2006 21:59:25 GMT -5
I actually think that marijuana should stay illegal. If it where legal however there would probably be more drunkies on the streets, more rapes, and more people dropping out of school having a terrible life.
I just don't think those things are suitable for the enviorment. And if you look at how awful our enviorment is these days I don't think it can take much more.
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Post by Vizor on Jan 3, 2006 19:04:28 GMT -5
What makes you think any of those would increase, if anything wouldn't they DECREASE? Anyone who honastly really wants to smoke MJ can do it without effort. Making it legal shifts the drug power from crime lords too the government where they can moderate this.
This means the police force can go to better use and less money for the crime lords. Not to mension now people wouldn't have to go to dangerous (some not all people that smoke are dangerous people or anything) to buy their MJ.
So less money to the drug lords and the police get more resorces to play with. How does this raise crime rate exactly?
Now on your second point, on dropping out? So people that smoke will be more likely to drop out. Perhaps but not really, I mean the only reason everyone so scared of MJ cause it's a so called gateway to harder drugs which really mess with your brain. Though lets be honast...alcahol is just as much as a gateway drug MJ if not more. The fact that it's something so bad as a kid, and then given the power to drink it as an adult really rubs off on other dessisions you make drug wise. Ask yourself how many people do you know that started smoking before they started drinking. Chances are they started drinking before they started smoking (obviously not in all cases). So you could say that someone liked the feeling of being drunk and wanted to try other means to be impared, or a different kind of imparedness...even though that's not really a word.
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Post by bondextreme on Jan 3, 2006 22:02:48 GMT -5
Well one of the things I want to know what is the purpose of doing drugs? It's just like smoking. Smoking has and I mean (HAS) no perpose. All you do is breath smoke into your lungs and breath out causing your lungs to sometime fail.
Drugs are pretty much the same thing so what is the purpose I ask?
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Post by Vizor on Jan 3, 2006 22:45:30 GMT -5
For a feeling. I mean why do people want sex...I mean it's just physical contact. It's just up and down, back and foward...but people keep doing it. Samething with alcahol, do you drink...why do you drink? I drink, I know it's bad for me. MJ gets you high and that's why people smoke...maybe some people even like the taste. So it's like a junk food you eat even though you know it's bad...though you eat it anyways cause it taste real good.
Ciggerete smoking is the same thing, some people do it because it makes them "feel special or included". We're in a world run by feelings, that's why people give and donate...that's why people care. People do things because it makes them feel good...or bad or whatever they're after.
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Post by Eyesore on Jan 4, 2006 0:03:45 GMT -5
There's pretty much no feeling to cigarettes, most people speculate that any "stress relief" is just your addiction telling you that you want it.
it also lowers your blood pressure so for some people that will seem like a stress reliever, but for others it'll just make them depressive and cold.
Marijuana does have its "mellowing out" effects though. I mean hey, if he doesn't have an addictive personality and he's not taking it to be cool, why badger him?
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Post by Ethan Hawkeye on Jan 4, 2006 3:55:10 GMT -5
I would in no way relate smoking and sex because sex is actually a needed thing in the world, it's called reproduction you know the "making of babies" now when a boy and a girl like eachother... hehe. Actually smoking cigs does help some people in their own inds, it's all psycological for nicotine whereas weed gives you a mellowing out feeling that tends to in a person's mind make the world a less complicated place. Lots of people smoke MJ to mellow out, but not all smokers drop out of school, in fact at my school the smartest people are pot heads you can talk to them about anything and theyll always have something to say. I don't see MJ as a gateway to other drugs because chances are the people who go into heavier stuff would have done so anyways even if they never tried MJ just because I hate to say it peer pressure is an issue with people and drugs. I'm not syaing it's the #1 cause and blah blah peer pressure oh my god, but for lots of people they will get involved in hardcore shit because their friends do or have and they feel they need to follow.
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Post by Vizor on Jan 4, 2006 13:17:01 GMT -5
Actually I can relate them perfectly. Your right sex is a nessesity, though I said they also do it for a feeling. Now your right it is a nessesity though have you ever heard of a condom? Funny that's stopping though purpous of sex isn't it. Oh wait they're doing it because it feels good. I'm talking about sex for fun opose to make little babies. 98% when a person sex they do it for fun. How is that a nessesity?
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Post by Ethan Hawkeye on Jan 4, 2006 15:14:46 GMT -5
I'm not syaing sex is only a necessity, but sex has always been about because it's needed. Smoking came about because peopel created it. I don't know how that falls into topic, but yea.
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Post by RoyalWelshman on Jan 4, 2006 15:42:21 GMT -5
Sure sex is a nexessity, I consider it necessary whenever I want it.
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Post by JackInJill on Jan 4, 2006 19:32:47 GMT -5
of course sex is a necessity! Not just procreation, but passionate and protected sex as well.
How much do any of you really want to have kids? To have the woman you love scream at you for nine months because of hormones and mood swings? and when the kid comes home from the hospital you're up all night, you hve to clean up puke, change diapers... And guys don't even have to actually endure the birth, it's no joy ride for women.
But there's that fleeting hope that the sex that brought you a child will be orgasmic, and that's worth striving for. If it wasn't for amazing sex no one would consider conceiving children. Children are disgusting and a waste. Sex just hides that fact a bit.
We NEED the child proof sex. It's a necessity.
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